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Super Powers and Weaknesses

Prodigy: (ooc) Guest Forum: Super Powers and Weaknesses


Raw Fish With A Vengence (Sushi)

 
Ah, but the point about sheet balance is that in theory, ever character in the game who wants to do this should have a chance of clobbering any other character in the game, without being totally overpowerd, or totally overpowering the other character. In a dice game we would roll, in Prodigy we replace this with cooperative play. But a character who simply IS a lot stronger than another character will find balanced cooperative play much harder than otherwise.

You see, basically I could construct a character with the major power of invincibility. No matter what is done he cannot be beaten in combat. Any action against him with hostile intent is automatically refuted. I could probably do a lot of cooperative role-playing with that character, but there would still be the problem that if someone else wants to clobber him he would not get the chance. Hence, sheet balance is void in that case, and that's something I would like to avoid, or at least, limit to very rare cases.


Fear the wrath of (Scatterbrain)

 
An example of how Sushi's system can work in a character that proceeded it.

An example, I might add, which consisted entirely of me adding Major Power, Minor Powers, Killswitch, and Minor Weaknesses to what I had already written.


Raw Fish With A Vengence (Sushi)

 
That's the reason I believe that in fact most characters will find no trouble with this system because it allows almost all variations and combinations of powers to work - just not the combination of several monstrous powers.

However, Scatterbrain will, like all mental-powered characters, have to accept it if the effect of the power is not what he expected.


Alexander Stevenson (Xatmo97)

 
I just made an attempt at balancing my sheet. I'd be grateful if someone told me if it looks balanced or not...though it's doubtlessly flawed.


Raw Fish With A Vengence (Sushi)

 
I'll give you comments, soon.


Raw Fish With A Vengence (Sushi)

 
First a question: What is your goal with this balancing attempt? Do you want to be in line with the new rules or not? It doesn't seem to make sense to use the new rules if you don't comply with them.


Alexander Stevenson (Xatmo97)

 
I'd like to comply with the rules yea..Really though the main reason is that yourself and Scatter both have balanced, New-Rules sheets. Doesn't seem fair or practical if I don't....Plus if I ever get into a spat in future, having a new-rules layout will help in the long-run.


Raw Fish With A Vengence (Sushi)

 
Well then, first comment, design your powers so that you have either one major and a few minor powers or several medium powers.


guest super (Guest)

 
A Major Power idea I had a while ago, which I'd like to bring to the light of day for RP on this forum.

Unseen Teleportation, Major power. Within a "cognitive radius" of 25 metres (50 with concentration), Daniel Hammer is capable of teleporting most nonliving objects into his pocket dimension, called Hammerspace, which can store about as much matter at one time as a moderate-sized warehouse. They can then be produced at will.

Unseen Sense, Minor power. To compensate for the unseen nature of his power, Daniel also has a clairvoyant sense of things not being viewed. With concentration, this can allow him to find lost objects, or even teleport objects without knowing where they are. As a consequence of this, he knows when he's being actively watched.

Major weakness: The core restriction on Daniel's teleportation is its unseen nature. He can only teleport objects which are not being looked at by other cognizant beings (even through means such as live camera feeds), and then he can only produce the objects from space which is similarly not being viewed (ie, reaching behind himself, or into a shadow, or into his pocket to produce something).

Medium weakness: Daniel's teleportation is also restricted against use on living and especially cognizant beings. It seems that the power has a particular concept of cognizance, as it can also be shown as not functioning on beings such as self-aware robots, which may not be considered as "living". (In OOC terms, Daniel is incapable of teleporting any characters. Since this means it's impossible to use for travel, I'm hoping this means it satisfies the rule against teleportation.)

Minor weakness: Daniel's unseen sense has gaps in any space which is actually being watched.

Minor weakness: Daniel's sense of "being watched" does not apply to unmonitored video cameras, or to any non-visual surveillance (e.g., listening devices).

What do you think? Should I go with this, rework it a bit and go for it, or come up with a new character?


Street Guardian (Racer)

 
I like your idea, and i dont think you have to come up with a new character. But then im not a MOD either. what do you all think ?? give him some feedback for we need new characters in this game.


Anonymous

 
I'm toying with a new character, posting anon to keep it separate from myself for the players.

A super who has a minor power of time acceleration, and a major power of healing.

I'm thinking metabolic control style healing, he's manipulating the sick or injured body into using more resources then normal to heal itself, and then putting time acceleration over it so that the body he's working on is healed within Visible moments, but not subjective ones.

I've decided male nurse at the hospital on the east side, or possibly an orderly, an invisible with access to patients.

Writing sample to report that the 'child with a broken leg' was suffering from a very bad sprain instead... because he healed it.

There's an apparent minor weakness that you can't time accelerate a poison or disease that's deadly, but I think the character needs slightly more in the "against" column, even for a medic.


The Currently Human, Sewer (Thing)

 
Perhaps the healing ability causes some kind of biological backlash on the healer.

Or accelerating time causes him to age a little faster each time he does it. Just some thoughts.


Anonymous

 
That sounds like I'd be replacing him from old age himself before too long...

Hunger?

It's possible to starve from either of the factors, both of them together with a bad injury brings good news, your healed, bad news, you starved to death...


The Deep Well (Bartleby)

 
Maybe the healing causes large cysts and tumors to appear as the body regenerates too quickly.


Anonymous

 
that sounds like what would happen if he got the controll wrong, something that's possible but... I think I'm pretty solid on the metabolic control.

What about the time power, maybe it has to come from somewhere, or somewhen? Talismanic? He carries a fossalised shark tooth, pulling age out of it. That should cover all the healing he might need to do, but he'd burn it up if he wanted to turn a lock to rust?

lets try character aimed drawbacks...

pacifism, dedication to life, vegitatarian?


The Deep Well (Bartleby)

 
Character drawbacks...what if he has to use his time manipulation powers on himself every few minutes, fine-tuning his internal clock to stave off the constant sensation of deja vu?


Anonymous

 
Opposite dirrection, what if he CAN'T time himself? Has to come from something out of himself and into something else?


The animal's (Fury)

 
Hmmm...that sounds good. What if it wastes his energy every time he uses it? Soon he'll become weak and hardly able to lift a finger. Like the time shift accelerates his energy being wasted. Normally your energy decreases with whatever you're doing. Now when he accelerates time, his energy could waste away even faster then normal.


Anonymous

 
He recovers within a day, "Just let me rest a little", rather then "I'm getting old before my time"

Lets not be too rough on him, there's no active super healers that I can see, lets let this one last a while


The Crimson Blade (Swashbuckler)

 
A possible power drawback would be you're accelerating time for a person. Technically causing them to lose potentially months of their life.


Or in the other direction a possibility similar to a walking lazarus pit, the rejuvinating effects are maddening (in which case, make them restore youth rather than take it away), and while healing the uninjured , it harms them. (Easy fix, don't heal the uninjured and not-dying... the undead... I have no idea).

Either way a healer sounds useful. The time- based healiing, though in this case acceleration and not deceleration (as in reverse to before the injury) reminds me of the girl in Bleach.


Anonymous

 
Anybody familiar with 'the jaunt' it's a short story about space travel by teleportation.

You have to be asleep when you do it, because while your body makes the trip in the instant, the mind takes Forever, and you go insane if your awake.

So on one hand, if he uses just time, he ages them and they get hurt. On the other hand, if he tries to put an entire person into 'fast forward' they go insane.

Add in time having to come from somewhere, as it's a minor power, so he draws it from a petrified shark tooth.

And a devotion to life, in all forms, vegetarian even...

I've sent in a note to admin via e-mail and will attempt to register the character...

IF we can get a name? Anybody have an idea?


The Crimson Blade (Swashbuckler)

 
Superdoc! The Amazing Repairman! Level 80 Elite Tauren Priest!

...Yeah, I got nothin'.


Mathilda McDouglas (Mathilda)

 
Here is an idea I have for a char....

Don't know if it would fly here... and not sure the flaws and powers really balance out that well. But I'm curious what people would think about it.... it's basically a living quantum wavelength

?¿§¿? Would be created in some large high energy explosion that would have some affect on time and space.... it not need happen in the game now and could have happened in the past... at wich point ?¿§¿? would have spent time lost as it ricocheted, rolled, and twitched along through higher dimensions. Rather it was from it's attempts to pull itself together, or by some outside influence, this six dimensional being was slammed into a three dimensional reality taking on the 'form' of a rather rare occurrence: a being that is made up of a full six dimensional wavelength of probability.

Due to it's nature it is unable to exist where there is not life of some sort to observe it, and as people observe it, it has form..... it's mind an motive are stable but it's physical state an ability to interact with things is not. Each person observing it will be collapsing a different wavelength of it's limitless nature usually what is most expected by that person. This leaves everyone looking at it seeing something different, though a communal reality could be enforced on it if everyone starts to believe it is the same thing until it leaves there observation. And while it can not exist unless it is observed it is able to instantly pass out of observance and into observance elsewhere by passing through a higher dimension. (so if it moved out of line of sight of anything, then it would move into sight some where else instantly)....

?¿§¿?'s nature, and the very odd circumstances around it's creation, give it the power to affect the fabric of reality sending distortion waves or pulses through it or creating fields of stability, and even unleash entropy causing degradation and decay. It's properties of a unstable waveform also has the tenancy to affect probability and is able to cause (minor for now, though possibly rather strong ones later) temporary shifts in it leading to being able to create some degree of good or bad luck. It is these capabilities it mainly uses to protect itself or engage in combat. However it is capable of producing a staggering wide verity of partials and energy, leaving it a rather simple matter for it to move things with kendic energy or attack something with heat/light/radiation.

(simply: it can manipulate energy, including some rather nontraditional energy manipulation such as entropy.)

RP powers, flaws, restrictions would be:

* A unlimited range of forms it can take (not controllable by ?¿§¿?)
* A unlimited range of languages and means of communication (not controllable by ?¿§¿?)
* Dose not die from age, though it's age is veritable... should it 'die' by aging it would be outside it's control and would pass into existence/observation some where else.
* If no one remembers it and it's not being observed then it exseast to exist until some one remembers it at which point it will imitatively phase into the observance of that person.
* It can't go anywhere there is nothing to observe it, and should it kill the only thing observing it, it will not be able to collect loot from that kill as it will instantly move some where else.
* It is able to 'teleport' instantly from one place to another as long as it moves out of observance and into a place it is observed.
* It's powers become more and more restricted the more people observe it in one manor or another, if it grows to the point many people perceive it as something with no powers then it would take a GRATE effort on it's part to start using any given power (though it would grow more simple if they believe this to be it's action). This esilates to the point if enough people perceive it a serten way it becomes that thing they all perceive it to be.


And varying in powers that are possible for it:

* It is able to stabilize/destabilize reality on a very minor level (though this takes a LOT out of it)
* It is able to produce and manipulate energy, including non typical types of energy like entropic and kendic.
* It is able to affect probability in itself and others to some degree.
* It is able to store a wide arrange of things inside itself, even if larger than it'self.
* It can move freely unaffected by gravity
* It is able to move objects by manipulating and creating kinetic energy.


Anonymous

 
I like this character but I have a couple of concerns.... If I was one to cling to the zero sum rule I think the super powers here need to be reigned in a bit. The usefulness and range of the powers is infinite where the weaknesses are finite and defined.

e.g.:

What do you mean by an unlimited range of forms? Can you turn into a black hole, atomic bomb, or God? Even if the control is not IC it is still within the player’s control. To make it truly out of your character’s control you could say that any other player can control the form. If you want to impose a restriction, like nothing that would really be harmful (like a brick while you’re swimming in the ocean) than the range of the power has to similarly be curtailed, e.g. nothing that could be harmful to someone else. But that still would not really balance it because its range remains infinite. I think this should be a character quirk power... you can take an unlimited range of forms but none confer any special advantage beyond causing a fright or hiding by turning into something unexpected like a sofa or wiener dog.

"It is able to produce and manipulate energy, including non typical types of energy like entropic and kendic." This is another, do anything you want anytime kind of power... I can’t think of anything that could balance this out.

"It is able to stabilize/destabilize reality on a very minor level (though this takes a LOT out of it)." Again this needs to be defined. What does destabilize reality mean? Does it mean you can turn the entire planet into soup? Not sure when you would use the stabilize reality power... if it means that you can stop any form of magic than given the sum of your powers that’s a little too much.

My suggestion is thus to:
1: make the unlimited forms power just a character quirk, power – take other forms, out of the characters control, but confers no real advantage

2: Axe the produce and manipulate any form of energy power... manipulating and creating kinetic energy is enough

3: Axe the stabilize/destabilize reality power

4: Give some examples of what the extent of your probability manipulation... e.g. wins a coin toss 75% of the time, bullets and things fired and thrown at him are 25% less likely to hit or the weapons are 75% more likely to jam or malfunctions, he almost always gets coverage on his cell phone, etc....

Last suggestion... for a real name Philonous... referencing Three Dialogues between Hylas and Philonous.


Hope that helps!


Mathilda McDouglas (Mathilda)

 
*shrugs* forms would most often be humanoid but don't have to...... and they wouldn't realy give it any exstra powers besides mabye size and afecting it's strength durablity.....

but it would have a grate afect on limiting it's nature and other powers ... most often it would find it'self afected by gravity and have a hard time braking it's hold.... it would find it's ablities restricted

and it's aperance/nature is diffrent from creature to creature so 3 people could see 3 diffrent things... and it would be those 3 diffrent things at the same time, but only one to each of them.


and by minor affects on reality... just minorly diverting a rule or creating a distortion in them... so maybe a gun don't fire becase the blasting powder wouldn't ingnight... or it could slowly heal a disription/rift or close/open a portal of sorts for people over a piriod of time


energy manipulation should be dinfined and limited too but i'm not sure how to do that.... besdies some exsamples... like how much entropy can it affect... like say enugh to make a bicycle fall apart if it's not limited by it's form? or it can put out or start a bond fire sized flame just by looking at it if it's not being limited.


I don't realy know it's not an easy char to define... it would be interesting but it's very nature makes it hard to define for a game x.x


but the char would be rather limited most the time.... for exsample if most the people exspect to see a drunken bumm in an alyway and they turn to find it... well then not only would it find it's ablitied quite limited to that of an old man, and would have to push it'self to do much of anything beyond that.... but it would suddenly fin it'self intoxicated aswell.

All in all it's a rather weak char in most circumstances with the only real overpowering thing about it is the difficultly to which it would take to get rid of it for good..... behing that enugh people would have to see it as the same thing for it to be locked into that state so fully everyone would truely beleave it to be dead.... or it's existance can't be remembered by anyone....

kinda hard things to do with out a good deal of planing and resorces

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